Alan-Benefit / Website (10.6.06 13:05) Good one. One to add to my favourites - four of which are: We live not in order to provide food, shelter and clothing for the body. We provide food, shelter and clothing for the body in order to live. Material things are only the means to a spiritual end. When they become the end, the sole end, as they usually are, life loses content and discontent afflicts mankind. Louis Fischer: The Life of Mahatma Gandhi The truth that brings happiness cannot be preached; it can only be achieved by individuals who look honestly within themselves. Leo Tolstoy: What Then Must We Do? A society gets all the criminals it deserves. Emma Goldman Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve their reputation and social standing, can never bring about a reform. Susan B. Anthony

Fiona / Website (10.6.06 17:00) Hi Al, I like your quotes and agree except for the Goldman one. I believe that no matter how well-meaning a society might be, the quirks and aberrations of human nature and people's penchant for indolence and altered states of consciousness while at the same time demanding the comforts everyone else has preclude everyone living within globally acceptable codes of behaviour--thus you get criminality, which is usually either provoked by greed or by sociopathic or psychopatic individuals, of which there seems to be no end. Now you explain your belief!

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